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No. 478

What are some lessons that you remember learning during your childhood?

Did you learn them the "easy" way - sitting on your grandpa's knee? Or the "hard" way - that touching that hot stove when mom says not to is not such a good idea!

No.479

>>478
My dad, an alcoholic, would tell me over and over again:

"Never pet a burning dog."

The day I realized that I had become an adult was the day I understood that advice

No.480

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I remember being a kid and hearing a song on the radio, I couldn't really understand the words, but when I did hear the chorus I thought they had said something profane.

I became immediately upset about it. My big sister said that the words were something completely different - words that phoentically made a lot more sense than what I'd imagined, but my skepticism held. Then she got frustrated, looked me dead in the eyes and said, "I don't need to lie to you."

Then it hit me that adults giving me life advice "probably aren't lying to me" so I should try to take heed when they speak.

>>479
Fellow child of an alcoholic, here. That is pretty fucking heavy. I wish I could have understood that sooner, because I am already smouldering.

No.481

I once went to a used car dealer ship with my dad to visit the owner who is also our neighbor. While my dad was the talking to the owner, I was talking to this old black dude that was sitting next to the owner. The guy told me that I should not fuck until I was had my own apartment and enough money to be successful. The only pussy I need is the ones on magazines he said. If I get a girl pregnant as a child and I'm not ready, my life goes to hell.

No.482

>>481
You know old black dudes tend to give pretty sound advice. You know they've seen some bullshit from women over their years.

Sometimes they take it too far but see how they don't take shit from anyone. White folks could stand to learn that sometimes

No.483

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>>482
>don't take shit from anyone

This, exactly.

>>481
Good story by the way.

There's a big loud black guy at my job - folks have real mixed feelings about him, call him lazy, stupid, etc., but that guy keeps it 100% real. We all get paid the same, so he's not busting ass to try and earn brownie points. We all have to work with each other, so he likes talking about things other than work.

He walked in and threw $10k in cash at one of his bff coworkers one morning - won it in poker. "I'm no electrician [we're an electrical maintenance crew], I'm a professional! You think I give a shit if this equipment is down? Fuuuuck no. […] Man, I love this fuckin job. This job is like a bitch to me."

Motherfucker is funny, but he's got class. Talks shit to the guys who don't dress up and take their wives out to brunch every Sunday, etc. Real proper guy from Jamaica of all places, where he knows how bad shit can get.

No.491

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The best lesson I learned as a young boy in the 70s came from my grandmother who told me that it takes all kinds of people to make a world. That I should not discount someone because they're a different religion or a different race or if they're in a wheelchair or if they're elderly. She encouraged me to really look at people, to see those differences and explore them. That some folks were darker or lighter, had longer hair or clean cut, that had tattoos or not; but that all people deserve an equal chance, given the same opportunities, and be held accountable only to their individual selves.

The idea was to make me realize that I am, in fact, different from most people. To know as a grown man that even though I am a healthy, educated white man, there is a whole world out there to whom I am different. This is a lesson I've carried with me my entire life, applied it to everything I've ever done; and held me accountable only to myself.

Yeah, sure, I suppose it makes me an old Gen X hippie; but because of her lesson I can sit down and have a beer with anyone and find something to talk about.

No.516

>>480
>Then it hit me that adults giving me life advice "probably aren't lying to me" so I should try to take heed when they speak.
I've had the opposite experience. My parents were sadistic, and often fooled other adults into helping their sadistic plans.
>What are some lessons that you remember learning during your childhood?
That adults will always use and abuse kids since it's a Christian nation.

No.517

>>516
Fucking fedora. That's not a symptom of a Christian nation, at all. Our nations are certainly safer for kids than, say, China, where you go to work as soon as you're strong enough.
Christian nations have the best parents.
>>491
And all those sorts of people are very different, and some are good for the world, and some are bad. Not everyone is equal, and, while everyone should be allowed to work under the same laws and be given the same treatment by the government, some groups will always be better at some things, and we shouldn't pretend that this is some act of God's bigotry that we need to correct by giving handouts or treating some group better.
>>478
Honestly, I don't really remember any lessons from my childhood. I mean, I know I've learned and grown a lot since then, but I think it's been gradual enough for me not to notice it while it's happening, so I don't really have any eureka moments.

No.518

>>517
>fedora
Nice ad hominem, my dude. Come back when you have a real and honest argument.

No.519

>>518
But you don't have an argument. You made a statement. I insulted you for it. Where's the argument for me to dispute? Where's your argument for why Christian nations are bad for children? I can't make an argument to reply to you when you don't make an argument.

No.520

>>519
Semitic religions, including Christianity, specifically claim that a parent is in control of his children, and can even kill his children under certain situations where he disagrees with his kids.
Compare this to the secular view where people should be given equal rights, rather than have a master/slave relationship.

No.521

>>520
>Semitic religions, including Christianity, specifically claim that a parent is in control of his children, and can even kill his children under certain situations where he disagrees with his kids.
One, I need some citations. Two, I need modern ones. Semitic religions, especially Christianity, have developed extremely from the Old Testament, so that's not a very good example.
Also, parents are in control of their children, and should be so. Children are stupid and naive. Good parents will use this control over these people that they feed and take care of to guide them in the right directions to grow up well and be independent.
>Compare this to the secular view where people should be given equal rights, rather than have a master/slave relationship.
One, a "secular view" isn't a unified ideology, it just means a non-religious view. There are many types of views that might fall under "secular," including ones like an Anarcho-Capitalist might have, where child slaves are the norm, for example.
If five-year-old children were given the same position as their parents, then any family with three or more kids, or two or more and one parent, would end up having a vote every night, and every night, they would eat ice-cream for dinner. Then they would die of obesity-related issues before they reached 25.

No.522

>>521
>modern ones
Ah, you just want to cherry-pick. You won't accept any evidence from the bible that I give you.
>Also, parents are in control of their children, and should be so.
Spotted the fascist.

No.523

Guys this /gf/ GOOD FEELINGS

Just agree to disagree. No one's opinion is going to change from this discussion

Each one of you post an image that makes you laugh and share a chuckle

No.524

Never mind I'm dumb lol it's /nos/

But still ;_; come on this is a comfy place

No.525

>>523
>>524
I want to post a nice image, but I don't want to derail the thread. I will post it on /gf/

No.528

>>522
How does that make me a fascist? You're just a spoiled brat who's upset mommy won't let him use her car to do something irresponsible, or, at least, that's how you come off. If my parents had been more authoritative, maybe I wouldn't be an alcoholic failure.
>>523
>>524
>>525
Sorry, man, but this guy is wrong. Anyway, arguments are fun.

No.529

>>528
>If my parents had been more authoritative, maybe I wouldn't be an alcoholic failure.
Blame yourself, not your parents, for your lack of self-control.

No.531

>>529
I do blame myself, but it's ridiculous to think that my parent's hands-off parenting had nothing to do with it.
Anyway, this isn't about me, that was an example.

No.532

>>531
>it's ridiculous to think that my parent's hands-off parenting had nothing to do with it.
No, it's not. Your parents didn't make you do it. You chose to do it.
People should be held responsible for themselves, and be given the freedom such so that they can't blame anyone but themselves.
You display tendencies of eleutherophobia.

No.533

>>532
Clearly, you don't understand the responsibility of parents. One of which is disciplining their children when they make poor decisions. In my case, if I had had a strong father-figure to discipline me when I slacked off in school, and to push me to get good grades, I might have been able to go to college and get a better job. This is just an example.
Children can't be held responsible for their poor decisions, ultimately, because they're stupid. Parents are supposed to prevent their stupid children from making poor decisions.
Now, my child-self has dug myself into a hole that my adult self has o pull myself out of, and I am trying, but you can't seriously say that it wouldn't have been better if my father had kept me from digging that hole in the first place, instead of drinking himself to death, can you?

No.534

>>533
>Clearly, you don't understand the responsibility of parents
Having a child is the most selfish act on earth, tantamount to slavery and murder, so the responsibility of a parent is to offset their selfish choice to have had a kid.
>Children can't be held responsible for their poor decisions, ultimately, because they're stupid. Parents are supposed to prevent their stupid children from making poor decisions.
Are their parents not stupid for having had kids? How can you be sure they'll be less idiotic than their children?
>but you can't seriously say that it wouldn't have been better if my father had kept me from digging that hole in the first place, instead of drinking himself to death, can you?
I can say it wouldn't have been better. You'd be less of yourself, and more a slave, a robot, a doll, a puppet, or a clone of your parents.

No.535

Continued
An example would be me and my sister. My younger sister might be called ``successful'' in that she got good grades, was a good athlete, never thought any impure thoughts, and so on. But she's not a person. She's an automaton, programmed to please her parents. She doesn't do things for herself if they're against her parents wishes. She exists solely to serve them. She has nearly no personality. She only tries to imitate an exaggerated version of my parents, especially of my mother. What my mother does, my sister does twice as much or twice as hard.
She always got beaten less than I was, as a result.
I was beaten more, but I seem to still be human. I'm an individual. I don't want to be alive, but I sadly don't think the time I die will be of my choosing.
The child protective services of this Christian nation did nothing to help me, since beating your kids to bruises is only a minor problem, in their eyes. A fellow Christian nation, the Russian Federation, recently voted to decriminalise non-lethal domestic violence. And surely, everyone knows the conditions other nations with Semitic religions have, like Saudi Arabia and Iran.
I'm sorry for shitting up this /nos/ thread. The OP's post is very important to me, since I sadly learnt many lessons about freedom and happiness the hard way.

No.536

>Continue
>An example would be me and my sister. My younger sister might be called ``successful'' in that she got good grades, was a good athlete, never thought any impure thoughts, and so on. But she's not a person. She's an automaton, programmed to please her parents. She doesn't do things for herself if they're against her parents wishes. She exists solely to serve them. She has nearly no personality. She only tries to imitate an exaggerated version of my parents, especially of my mother. What my mother does, my sister does twice as much or twice as hard.
Maybe she's actually like that? Maybe she enjoys how she is, being successful? Not everyone who's not a failure "isn't human." Your mother had a legitimate personality, didn't she? Maybe that's just your sister's natural personality, also.
>She always got beaten less than I was, as a result.
>I was beaten more, but I seem to still be human. I'm an individual. I don't want to be alive, but I sadly don't think the time I die will be of my choosing.
>The child protective services of this Christian nation did nothing to help me, since beating your kids to bruises is only a minor problem, in their eyes. A fellow Christian nation, the Russian Federation, recently voted to decriminalise non-lethal domestic violence. And surely, everyone knows the conditions other nations with Semitic religions have, like Saudi Arabia and Iran.

No.537

>>536
I'd like to point out something. "Semitic religions" are a grouping of religions with similar origins, and are not really very similar. Islam is a completely different religion. Even Russian Eastern Orthodox Christianity is very different, and that doesn't even have a very strong hold on Russia, anymore, since the decades of secular Communism fucked the region.
If you actually were abused, I'm sorry about that, and that is an issue with our system. But our system has nothing to do with Christianity. We are a secular nation, you know. Or, at least, America is, and that's the nation I assume that you are in. We're only something like 55% Christian, anymore, Though our nation is very culturally Christian, and our founders were Christian, our laws certainly aren't.
>I'm sorry for shitting up this /nos/ thread. The OP's post is very important to me, since I sadly learnt many lessons about freedom and happiness the hard way.
And most people who did so don't blame the religion that has led their cultures to greatness. Christianity, for example, is what inspired monks to save Roman and Greek writings, and to create their own. Most influential scientists from 1000 to 1900 were extremely Christian. It inspired them. Christianity may seem like a bad thing, because of dumb shit circulating through the media about how "advanced" we'd be with out it, but those are dumb lies started by secular communists to undermine our Christian heritage and culture.

No.538

>>536
>Your mother had a legitimate personality, didn't she?
Yes, my mother is a sadistic bully.
>Maybe that's just your sister's natural personality, also.
My sister, unlike my mother, does not have a personality.
>Maybe she enjoys how she is, being successful?
I don't think she has any enjoyment other than pleasing her parents.

No.539

>>537
>>536
It's okay to get along with people we disagree with.

Has anybody here ever had an argument with a friend?

I've had arguments with friends before. I felt powerless to change his "wrongness" about the issue we were talking about. It didn't make me feel good - I wanted to change him, but I couldn't. That's something I want to change about myself, today.

No.540

>>537
>are not really very similar
That's not true at all. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are extremely similar: they have Semitic values that originated in the middle east thousands of years ago.
>that doesn't even have a very strong hold on Russia, anymore, since the decades of secular Communism fucked the region.
No, after the fall of the union, politicians intentionally made Christianity have a strong hold on Russia again. Putin has done a lot to make sure Russia can become a Christian nation again.
>secular Communism fucked the region
I assure you my grandmother and mother benefited from communism while they lived there, and they say many things confirming that.
>our system has nothing to do with Christianity. We are a secular nation, you know.
No. If a single politician in government isn't secular, the government stops being secular, as a religious person has his religion influence every decision he makes.
What religion is the religion of our president? Most people in the supreme court? Most people in the house? Most people in the senate? This is a Christian nation, built on Christian laws. To deny that is insane, since the perspective of the law is so clearly Christian in origin.

No.541

>>537
>Christianity, for example, is what inspired monks to save Roman and Greek writings
It's rude to lie on the internet. Christianity had most monks rub out classic writings to write Christian stuff on top. Many classics have been lost because of that.
>And most people who did so don't blame the religion that has led their cultures to greatness
I'm sorry, but most influential Greeks and Romans didn't believe in their gods, just like Japanese people don't genuinely believe Shinto.
>secular communists to undermine our Christian heritage and culture
Yes, and part of our Christian heritage is our Christian law system and the idea that children are property.

No.542

>>539
>It's okay to get along with people we disagree with.
I agree! That's something religious people don't do though, as seen by their desire to punish all people YHWH disagrees with.

No.543

>>539
Fine, I'll reply one last time, then be done with this idiot.
>>538
So, you didn't like your sister, so you call her a robot? It's very self-centered of you to claim that she had no personality, when it's likely that you just didn't know her very well.
>>540
>>are not really very similar
>That's not true at all. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are extremely similar: they have Semitic values that originated in the middle east thousands of years ago.
Their origins are the same, as I noted, but the actual religions have developed separately for hundreds of years. Even Christianity's denominations are very different. Judeo-Christian refers to the common roots in these religions, it doesn't group them together based on how similar their current-day rules are.
>>that doesn't even have a very strong hold on Russia, anymore, since the decades of secular Communism fucked the region.
>No, after the fall of the union, politicians intentionally made Christianity have a strong hold on Russia again. Putin has done a lot to make sure Russia can become a Christian nation again.
It still isn't the most Christian nation. It's secular.
>>secular Communism fucked the region
>I assure you my grandmother and mother benefited from communism while they lived there, and they say many things confirming that.
And I can assure you that the vast majority didn't, you dumb commie. They died. Are you seriously a fucking commie? I mean, I was trying to be polite, earlier, but this is worse than being a Nazi, and I wouldn't be polite when debating a Nazi either.
Do you know how many Communism killed? You are a pseudo-intellectual teenager, if you believe their is any good from it, though that was already obvious from your hatred of Christianity.

No.544

>>our system has nothing to do with Christianity. We are a secular nation, you know.
>No. If a single politician in government isn't secular, the government stops being secular, as a religious person has his religion influence every decision he makes.
>What religion is the religion of our president? Most people in the supreme court? Most people in the house? Most people in the senate? This is a Christian nation, built on Christian laws. To deny that is insane, since the perspective of the law is so clearly Christian in origin.
Our laws are not Christian, because we have a separation of Church and State. They may be motivated by Christian values, but that's because a significant enough portion of our population is Christian, and has been, so that these laws represent their desires and values. Just because these values come from Christianity doesn't make them bad or invalid. For example, Christianity values the punishment of murder. Is that a bad thing, just because it's Christian?
>>541
>>Christianity, for example, is what inspired monks to save Roman and Greek writings
>It's rude to lie on the internet. Christianity had most monks rub out classic writings to write Christian stuff on top. Many classics have been lost because of that.
Those classic writing wouldn't have even been there if monks hadn't copied them in the first place. If you save two things, then throw away one, are you not still a net-saver? Also, I don't really belive that this happened very often at all.

No.545

>>secular communists to undermine our Christian heritage and culture
>Yes, and part of our Christian heritage is our Christian law system and the idea that children are property.
Is that bad? Your obsession with how your parents are oh-so terrible is clearly indicative of the fact that you still live with them, you underaged commie fuck. Maybe when you grow up, you'll see that they meant the best for you, since the likely case here is that you're not abused at all. But if you are abused, and I doubt it, you'll be able to see that Christianity isn't what made them do it, the fact that they're assholes is.
>>542
>>It's okay to get along with people we disagree with.
>I agree! That's something religious people don't do though, as seen by their desire to punish all people YHWH disagrees with.
And most people God disagrees with are terrible, like murderers and rapists. And don't tell me about fags, it has historically been a good thing to make being a fag looked down upon, considering that it stopped the Roman and Greek traditions of fucking little boys, or at least made them hide it, and that it helped stop diseases. Many things in the Bible are just their health codes of the day. It's a lot more effective for people to hear not to do certain things that are bad for them if they hear them from God, not just their Elder.

No.546

>>543
>>544
>>545
>ad hominems, generalisations, and ``i know you better than you know yourself''

No.547

>>546
Just like you know your sister better than she does, huh? And you';re the one insulting Christianity with no real argument, and generalizing all Semitic religions as the same thing.
But why don't we just stop talking to each other, because you're clearly too stupid to see sense, you edgy 15-year-old commie.

No.548

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Christian life, best life.

No.561

This thread made me laugh.
Pretty standard, then half way through someone says something edgy then someone starts to argue it and the posts just get bigger and bigger.

Anyway,
Don't climb a tree with no way back down, or climb too high just because you can.
I learned the first by climbing a tree then getting stuck up there. Learned the second when I climbed up a tree that was probably 5 stories, then it got windy and it turns out trees bend quite a lot.
There's no doubt a lot of others but I can't remember them.

No.573

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>>479
This is a good advice actually…
>>478
My father was all the time saying "If you want something, earn it", I always thought it just was an excuse to not give us anything, and it kinda was… He hated give us B-day presents or Christmas presents too, even when I really put some effort on earn it, I never got anything. Anyway thanks to this I learned to be quite independent from my parents, and I always manage to get my own things by myself. I guess.

No.775

"Kill them with kindness" – if someone is being an asshole to you, don't stoop to their level. Don't be a doormat either, but just politely (and a bit passive-aggressively, tbh) remove yourself from the situation.

No.871

My mother never took this advice to heart for herself but she loved to tell it to me.

>Anon, the world doesn't owe you anything

No.872

>>561
>Don't climb a tree with no way down
I learned this too. An extension is, "don't ask someone to help you up into the tree if you won't be able to get yourself back down."

No.874

>>775
>>871
>>872
based necromancers

anyways my advice is that it pays to do the right thing, but not to be right. sometimes its okay to be wrong, the bad guy. everybody likes the underdog, nobody likes ned flanders



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