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No. 263

Why do I have no discipline?
Why can't I do anything?


You can always fix it.
A good book on discipline is "Self Discipline in 10 Days".
It deals with setting priorities and removing mental obstacles that might hinder you when you're working.
Sorry for shilling but it's pretty good.


Because you need to set realistic goals and start with baby steps. If you want to clean your room, you can start by picking ONE thing up each day. You will see how easy it is and you will adjust your self to maybe 5, or 10, etc etc. It only gets easier the more you do it


Sometimes I don't even feel excited about accomplishing baby steps though, since I know they are so artificially low. Or knowing I have so little to accomplish, I can lie in bed even longer, or generally allow myself to get distracted from what is my primary goal for the day/week.

Then even if I do get in a good cycle of getting things done, I struggle with the inertia - since at some point you are filling your day, so anything less than that feels like failure.

[Not OP]


Not OP, but I'm actually trying to do baby steps and making lists of "activities and small things to do" to get back in the habit of being somewhat productive. Setting it up kind of like levels and missions of a games. Making a list of 10 for Level 1, 20 for Level 2, and so on.


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Goal setting is possibly the most important thing to building quality self-discipline. Set daily, weekly, monthly and yearly goals.

As far as focus goes (which is often mistaken with discipline), I recommend the Pomodoro Technique. Start small and build up until you can focus for hours at a time. Reading is the easiest thing to do this with. If you want to build mental endurance/raw willpower, I find intense exercise and long cold showers to be good. Also keep in mind that without a healthy body, no amount of training will build you discipline. You need a healthy body.


I think it's one of those things that is really hard if you didn't pick it up as a child. I'm sure it's not impossible to pick up a when you're older but it's certainly a struggle in my experience at least. I struggle with this a lot. Maybe I need things to get really bad and then use that experience as motivation to improve my life.


This is my post from before. Let's just say things fell apart. Going to try again for April. I hope this time around I can actually get something done. I think I'm going to start with exercising. Going based on the whole "a healthy body will create a healthy mind" thing.


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Because you don't believe that you can. Yes, it's a cliche. Yes it's unhelpful; it is still true. I used to feel exactly the same way as you did, as though my life was on rails and completely out of my control. I had vague ideas of things that I thought I might want, but never for a moment believed that they would be achievable or could actually happen.
It may not surprise you to hear that I was very depressed for some time; ironically, it was when it got unbearable that I set myself free, completely by accident. I bought some heroin and lots of valium off the darknet with the aim of downing a bottle of vodka and dieing (inb4 not the most effective method, yada yada yada).
And then it occurred to me. Just sitting in despair in my room living off handouts, I could get access to some of the most powerful drugs the world has ever known delivered straight to my door. Isn't that crazy? Imagine what I could do if I put my mind to it!
Look the point of all this is that you need to embrace the absurdity. Chase a whale. Push a boulder up a hill. Smoke some rocks. Just do <something>, for Christs sake. Not something you never thought you could do, because you'll mentally block yourself from doing it. Do something entirely new, that is entirely unlike you.
It could be as simple as getting dessert.


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I feel man. Every time I want to get into something new or study a subject, after some time I lose interest and drive to ever look at it again.
I've fallen so many times into this spiral of apathy and despair.


I don't have discipline unless I have stress and pressure. So if I was to guess for you anon its probably the same. Just give yourself something to stress over and a deadline to hit it.


I was just about to post this exact same topic.


This is really true. I think I was just born a POS garbage person and don't think I can change it. Like when I think about "people who exercise" or "organized people" and wish I was like them…it just seems impossible and well, I'm not *one of those people*. I'm a garbage person.

How do I stop believing this?


just know that you can change, but it will take a conscious, sometimes grueling, effort. force yourself to learn small habits. go for a walk every morning, or put things back where they belong. over time, these good habits will overtake your old, bad ones and be easier to stick to.

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