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No. 1133

I'd built up this grandiose idea that joining the Army would fix me and all my problems. It got me away from some bad shit but it only made my problems worse somehow and I let it get to me to the point that they discharged me before I even completed basic training. While I was on my way out, I was told that I could always rejoin the military after 6 months. I got so excited over hearing this. Maybe I'd try a new branch, experience something different, still get my benefits, and much more after I fixed myself some in those 6 months. I called up the Air Force today. They didn't want me. They told me they wanted nothing to do with me until it got my discharge upgraded, which is impossible for my discharge. I called the Navy. Same story. The Marines. You know the deal. None of them want me. I've even talked with an Army recruiter again and they said it would be really tough to get me in. I'd built my whole life up to being a soldier. That was my dream. That was dashed in a heartbeat. I don't even know how to cope. I've got nowhere to turn here. There's no moving up for me. I'm such a fucking fool.


It's not that grandiose of an idea when it's always been that way for generations unless you're a NEET. However some people just aren't cut out for military service. That's why civil service like a conservation corps exists in some countries. Did you try the Coast Guard? If your body is physically up to it, you try for the French Foreign Legion though you'll have to deal with hazing from foreigners. I recently talked to a guy who's hopeful for getting into special operations as a recruit. He could have everything going his way only to be met with an injury that ends it all. At least you accepted the risk inherent with big Army and tried.


What exactly did ypu do wrong OP? Honestly I would take it as a sign that the military isnt for you. Thats fine; dust yourself off and find something else. Coastguard, fire brigade and police force might be better suited to you

>foreign legion
Jesus, no, dont do that. You have to give up your name and passport, cant have contact with your family for years. Plus its tough as nails, if you didnt make it through basic i seriously doubt youd survive the legion


you're probably just too self-aware and intelligent to do well as a soldier. it's for the best


>have to give up your name and passport
>cant have contact with your family for years
Those can all be pluses if you make the cut. Legionnaires look down on American recruits because they're used to being soft.
That's why there's special forces. He's not intelligent enough for that, but we're not really talking about OP anymore.


>It's not a grandiose idea when it's been that way for generations
The only other people in my family to have been in the military were my Grandfather and Grandmother and they both frequently spoke about how they hated it.
>Coast Guard
It doesn't matter enough. The chances of them even remotely accepting me as well is slim anyways.
>French Foreign Legion
God hates the French. In all seriousness, though, the American military is abusive enough. I can't imagine that the force of disenfranchised and banished young men is going to be even remotely a good choice.
>Spec Ops Recruit
Assuming he's a US Army 18X, he can enjoy an early discharge or becoming a regular infantryman. Very very few 18X make the cut and it's highly unlikely that he will be of the extraordinary few who do.

>What did you do
Suicide attempt
>Dust yourself off and find something else
That's what I'm trying to do now. I've got a decent job that pays well enough. I'm trying to distance myself from all of that shit right now. Maybe a fire brigade could be a good option in the future, but we'll see where life takes me for now.
>If you couldn't make it through basic, i seriously doubt you'd survive the legion
My problem wasn't with anything physical, though I did have trouble managing to drink enough water and with ruck marches. Instead, though, my issue was with my phenomenally shitty leadership and some shit that is still really eating me up inside in a way that's hard to describe.
That's flattering I guess


>That's why there's special forces, but he's not intelligent enough for that
Lol. Thanks for the compliment, guy. Special forces guys aren't particularly intelligent. Sure, for soldiers they are smarter than the average, but they're really just the guys who were smart enough to pass a written test (even if it was 5th+ attempt) and then determined enough to pass the grueling training. Oh, and they were capable of learning another language, the largest part of the special forces training. Now they're stuck in a shitty job but I guess they made Sergeant lmao. Most special forces guys are happy with the choice, though, so good on them for drinking the Kool Aid ig. When it comes to the foreign legion, I'm sure every boy and girl dreams of being universally ostracized and viewed as a criminal all because they joined a military force that is associated with them. In fact, I'm sure they would love to do it so much that they will give up every last ounce of agency they have in their own lives to go and die as a glorified police force in the middle east or get dysentery and parasites navigating the marshy areas of the Amazon rainforest. You don't have to be intelligent to pass it through any of this shit. You just have to make the cut. That's more about determination than anything. And as for your off handed comment about my intellect, I'll say as a young teenager would "you don't know me". Because you don't. You know a simple emotional sliver of my life that I have decided to share here. Even very intelligent people fuck up pretty hard from time to time, doing so doesn't drop numbers their IQ score lmao. We're humans and we make mistakes.

Take your (you) and buy something to help you out of this dumb ass mind set of yours.


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Now for a little update on my life!

I'm doing decent for myself. I actually managed to get some really good job offers out of nowhere, but sadly my inability to drive meant I couldn't take them. Now I'm working for a medium sized delivery company that is partnered with a furniture company instead. It's a very low level position, but at $15 an hour and decent management I really can't complain. It's a pretty easy job and while I'm not too fond of some of my coworkers I'm getting along fine. I'm actually feeling pretty hopeful for the future right now, honestly.

As for some more personal stuff: what drove me to attempt suicide in BCT was some family stuff that's now been resolved and, for the big reveal, secretly being a trans girl. The latter definitely contributed more to what I was feeling back then and my continual trial and error with just ignoring it had some disastrous consequences. Now, before the Petersonians which inhabit this board come try to tell me how to live my life, I'm really just trying to figure stuff out right now. I'm trying to learn who I am, as dumb as that is, and I'm doing that as independently as I can. I don't need you to shill out my future to me, that's how I got into the military in the first place.

Don't worry, overall, though. I don't look back on the military with any fondness anymore. I just let the brain worms my First Sergeant gave me and the disappointment of my family for failing eat at me for a little while. I've learned some shit and built some character from the military. I'm moving on now. It's been a very formative month for me since making the OP and I look forward to many more like it.


I see I struck a nerve. Enlisting out of desperation to get away from whatever is the last resort for men just like prostitution is for women. There are plenty of smart prostitutes especially the escorts.


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Why do gross people like you use this website only to try and ruin the vibe of it?

I'm back for my monthlyish check in. I'm just loving life right now. I mean, my job is ass but it pays well and I'm not super invested into it. I just do what I've gotta do and do it well then leave. With any luck I'll get to move into the supervisor position or at least get some decent raises here soon. Home life is as meh as ever. Slightly bad rn but I'm sure things will look up a little more here soon. I've started transitioning and have been on hormones for about 10 days now and I'm feeling the best I've ever felt in that regard. I'm saving up money to get my own car now. To be honest, that's about all there is to say.


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I've recently noticed lots of trans people are actually in the military. It surprised me. I heard it's because there is a lot of overcompensating?

How much do hormones even cost anyway? I'm probably trans but I don't want to take risk missing my very specific career goals so I'll probably never transition. It's probably just gonna be porn and fantasies for me….Good for you for figuring out who you are earlier though.

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